Guest blogger Margie Lawson on Cognitive Style and the Editing Process
Hey everyone, today's guest is the amazing Margie Lawson, whose classes have helped me immeasurably with my craft. I've used her Deep Edits system and Empowering Character Emotions lessons at the final stage of my last three books, and I can't begin to express how great they are (the lessons, not the books--though if you think the books are great, Margie's system had a lot to do with it).
I'm seriously tempted to take this new course she's offering next week. I'm coming up on a deadline, but on the other hand, it's an edit/rewrite deadline, so the timing is perfect. Hmmm....Today Margie helps us figure out whether we're right-, left, or whole-brained and how that affects our creative process. I took the quiz and scored a 9--whole-brained but leaning slightly to the left, which explains why I enjoy the rewrite stage more than the first draft "vomit" (my term, not Margie's).
Anyway, Margie is giving away free lecture packets (a $20 value!) to commenters on this blog. See the end of the post for details.Hold Your Editing Horses! Cognitive Style and the Editing Process
Are you riding the editing horse with a saddle, or bareback?By Margie Lawson
Writers – Humor me. Go with that image!Readers – Humor me. Read along and learn how writers stretch the hemispheres of their brains to make their writing stellar.
Picture yourself riding a horse. Sitting comfortably on that saddle. Holding the reins. Galloping. In control. Enjoying your ride.Now ---- picture riding a horse with no saddle. You’re leaning forward, riding bareback, moving with the horse, enjoying your wild ride.
Both riders love the rhythm. Love the exhilaration. Love their visceral responses.HELLO Jeri’s blog readers who know me! You know I’m all about visceral responses. You know I love rhetorical devices too. Did you notice ANAPHORA in those last three sentences?
We could use those two images as metaphors for deep editing. You’re either Left-Brained, in charge of editing . . . or Right-Brained, and editing is horsing around with you, running you in circles, riding you ragged, or scaring you to death.Multi-Cliché-Alert!
Does anyone want to rewrite that cliché-loaded sentence and WRITE IT FRESH?If you take the challenge, post it for all of us to applaud your talent. ;-)))
I get Margie-points for backloading the cliché-riddled sentence with DEATH. In that sentence, DEATH is definitely the strongest word, the word that carries the most POWER.I also backloaded with the power words FRESH and TALENT.
BACK TO DEEP EDITING:Left-Brained writers usually love editing. Right-Brained writers usually have an aversion to editing. They’d rather head to the barn, grab a shovel, and muck out stalls that are knee-deep in horse poop.
I had to work to end the sentence above with POOP. Always go for power!It would have been easier to write: They’d rather muck out horse stalls.
I wanted to use MUCK OUT – it’s scene-themed and evocative. Plus, the word MUCK sounds like the word it describes. Using onomatopoeia elicits an unconscious association to uckiness.BUT – ending with STALLS, seemed weak. Hence, my rewrite, resulting in a longer sentence, anchored with setting details, ending with POOP.
Some of you know I go deeper with editing. The Deep Editing that I teach is editing to increase psychological power. Editing to hook the reader viscerally. Editing to create a page-turner.You can add Deep Editing power in a gazillion ways. Once learned, it doesn’t take long before you’re writing to deep editing, adding power while writing your first draft or in an early quick-fix pass. You automatically think about power-builders like backloading, cadence, balance, motivation reaction units, visceral responses, nonverbals, writing fresh, and endless possibilities for rhetorical power.
Okay – it may take a few weeks to get to the automatic response level. :-))) BUT – it will happen.Right-brained writers love the creative freedom of writing new scenes. They’re happy, happy, happy in THE ZONE. It seems like the happier they are in the fresh writing zone, the more they struggle and get mired in the editing process.
Left-brained writers may work harder at getting a new scene on paper. However, they’re nestled in their happy place when they edit and edit and edit, reworking the same passage for eons.OKAY – Not eons. But it was a good place to slip in another rhetorical device. Hyperbole. ;-)))
Whole-Brained writers may have preferences for writing fresh or editing, but they have strengths in both hemispheres of the brain.Are you wondering if you’re RIGHT-BRAINED, LEFT-BRAINED, OR WHOLE-BRAINED?
Take this COGNITIVE STYLE QUIZ – and you’ll soon know!COGNITIVE STYLE QUIZ: Choose the one sentence that is more true.
- 1
- A. It's fun to take risks.
- B. I have fun without taking risks.
- 2
- A. I look for new ways to do old jobs.
- B. When one way works well, I don't change it.
- 3
- A. I begin many jobs that I never finish.
- B. I finish a job before starting a new one.
- 4
- A. I'm not very imaginative in my work.
- B. I use my imagination in everything I do.
- 5
- A. I can analyze what is going to happen next.
- B. I can sense what is going to happen next.
- 6
- A. I try to find the one best way to solve a problem.
- B. I try to find different answers to problems.
- 7
- A. My thinking is like pictures going through my head.
- B. My thinking is like words going through my head.
- 8
- A. I agree with new ideas before other people do.
- B. I question new ideas more than other people do.
- 9
- A. Other people don't understand how I organize things.
- B. Other people think I organize well.
- 10
- A. I have good self-discipline.
- B. I usually act on my feelings.
- 11.
- A. I plan time for doing my work.
- B. I don't think about the time when I work.
- 12
- A. With a hard decision, I choose what I know is right.
- B. With a hard decision, I choose what I feel is right.
- 13
- A. I do easy things first, important things later.
- B. I do important things first, easy things later.
- 14
- A. Sometimes in a new situation, I have too many ideas.
- B. Sometimes in a new situation, I don't have any ideas.
- 15
- A. I have to have a lot of change and variety in my life.
- B. I have to have an orderly and well-planned life.
- 16
- A. I know I'm right, because I have good reasons.
- B. I know I'm right, even without good reasons.
- 17
- A. I spread my work evenly over the time I have.
- B. I prefer to do my work at the last minute.
- 18
- A. I keep everything in a particular place.
- B. Where I keep things depends on what I'm doing.
- 19
- A. I have to make my own plans.
- B. I can follow anyone's plans.
- 20
- A. I am a very flexible and unpredictable person.
- B. I am a consistent and stable person.
- 21
- A. With a new task, I want to find my own way to do it.
- B. With a new task, I want to be told the best way.
To Score: One point for each time you answered "A" for questions: 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9, 13, 14, 15, 19, 20, 21
One point for each time you answered "B" for questions: 4 ,5, 6, 10, 11, 12, 16, 17, 18
Add all points:
- 0-4 strong left brain
- 5-8 moderate left brain
- 9-13 whole brain
- 14-16 moderate right brain
- 17-21 strong right brain
What’s your process?
Do you procrastinate?Do you edit in layers? Follow a plan?
What’s fun for you?How do you know when you’re finished editing so you can send your work on to a contest, an agent, or editor?
Do you usually feel successful at editing? Do you typically edit some sections of your book more heavily (first third, turning points, last few chapters), or are you an equal-opportunity, deep-edit-all-chapters person?I look forward to your input. And – you could win a Lecture Packet!
YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO WIN A LECTURE PACKET:
Anyone who posts a comment has a chance to WIN one of my LECTURE PACKETS (a $20 value). I’ll draw one name from every 25 people who post a comment.
Winners select one of the following Lecture Packets:
- Digging Deep into the EDITS System - offered on-line OCTOBER 13th, 2008
- Empowering Characters' Emotions - offered on-line in March
- Deep Editing: The EDITS System, Rhetorical Devices, and More - offered on-line in May
- Defeat Self-Defeating Behaviors - offered on-line in May
LECTURE PACKETS for each course are available any time. They can be ordered through Paypal from my web site.
Please visit my web site, www.MargieLawson.com , and click on Lecture Packets, to read the course descriptions.
I will respond to comments as time allows during my work day. I’ll be on-line this evening (Mountain Time).
Thank you for visiting Jeri’s blog!
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138 Comments:
I'm an aspiring fiction writer, and I'm wondering which of the packets would be recommended for someone who is totally new to the concept of Deep Editing? And will your workshops/packets help someone who has a hard time shunting aside the (naysaying) editorial voice when constructing her first draft?
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Kimberly B. at 10/06/2008 10:01 PM
What's with that? Margie, help.
BTW, her classes are amazing. I can't brag enough about Margie.
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Mario at 10/07/2008 9:26 AM
I critiqued for my CP last week and changed one of her sentences around to end with a power word, and told her why. Love those power words. :)
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Edie at 10/07/2008 10:07 AM
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magolla at 10/07/2008 10:08 AM
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ajmenden at 10/07/2008 10:11 AM
I scored 17--strong right brain. Your deep editing course has done wonders for helping make revisions easier for this right brainer. I already have the packets, so don't enter me, please.
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Jaye Wells at 10/07/2008 10:14 AM
I like editing when it comes to adding in layers and whirling things around, creating depth. I don't like it when it is about looking at a sentence for a million times.
I like writing new things especially when I'm "in the zone" but feel a pressure to get it done, which makes me like it not so much.
Does that help?
-Carrie
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carriejones at 10/07/2008 10:17 AM
I am definietly whole brain and have known it since my college paychology days a whole lotta years ago.
i have trained myself to shift as needed. I really love doing edits but I also love the flow of writing a book from beginning to end with out stopping.
I will probably be taking your class. I feel no matter how well I do something, I can always fiond a way to do it better.
I write straihgt through ( currently working on a 100,000mpage ms) and then let it sit a couple of days, shift into editor mode and go through and lyer in teh words that bring it to more life. Using all of the senses I look around at teh scene and experience it anew and wallow in it!
Looking forwar to the blog.
hugs
kathi harris from HOD_RW
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Anonymous at 10/07/2008 10:28 AM
kathi harris
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Anonymous at 10/07/2008 10:31 AM
Loved your quiz- I scored 17: strong right-brain. I really enjoy the editing part and just finished reading your Empowering Character's Emotions packet. WOW- what a wealth of information!
I was halfway through editing my book when I bought your packet. I went back and started from scratch using your techniques. Using your highlighting system really helps me "see" what I've written on the page and where I can make my sentences stronger.
Can't wait to take your class next week!
P.S. Kimberly B: I highly suggest starting with the Empowering Character's Emotions packet.
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Rosemary at 10/07/2008 10:39 AM
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Gail Barrett at 10/07/2008 10:57 AM
Very interesting article... I don't mind editing at all, but my first love is the first draft when word are flying out and images fill my head like a movie screen. I love digging through the thesaurus for just the right word to paint the scene. Fun!
Lisa
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Lisa at 10/07/2008 11:02 AM
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mschent at 10/07/2008 11:07 AM
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Diana Cosby at 10/07/2008 11:19 AM
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lilylith at 10/07/2008 11:24 AM
For me editing though is a tough slog. I want to get it over with, but after reading your article I am very intrigued with the idea of deep editing, and the use of power words.
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Patricia at 10/07/2008 11:31 AM
I'm whole brain, no surprise there since I'm an engineer by day and writer by night. Sometimes I love editing, and at other times I don't, so maybe that's a reflection of my whole brain thing!
By the way, I can't recommend Margie's courses enough to anyone who hasn't taken them yet.
Kimberly B. asked if the courses will help shunt aside the internal editor when writing and the answer is YES.
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Anna Hackett at 10/07/2008 12:00 PM
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Lynda K. Scott at 10/07/2008 12:01 PM
Great blog!
Isn't Margie amazing!!
Cher
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Cher Gorman at 10/07/2008 12:11 PM
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Pat at 10/07/2008 12:13 PM
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June Shaw at 10/07/2008 12:51 PM
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Patrice Michelle at 10/07/2008 1:02 PM
I'm a whole brainer tending toward the right. Makes sense when I think about how I work.
I tend to work on the early chapters until I hit my flow, then save the gritty editing for later. I layer, and do 4 or more passes. Thankfully, Margie's courses have helped me apply more techniques. Some are even automatic now - woohoo!
Another awesome blog, Margie and Jeri. Thanks for the fun!
Light,
Nancy Haddock
Va Vida Vampire
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Nancy at 10/07/2008 1:14 PM
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Celeste at 10/07/2008 1:17 PM
Loved your Empowering Characters Emotions class, Margie!
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Anne Carrole at 10/07/2008 1:18 PM
You're either a left-brained writer, editing your work with the precision and control of dressage... or you're right-brained, and editing has you at the end of a long rope staring down your manuscript wild-eyed and wishing you knew the word-whisperer's secret.
I'm with kimberly. Smack-dab in the whole-brain herd. Which might explain why I like to plot just enough to get the lay of the land, then I jump right in and write my favorite scenes first.
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jen h. at 10/07/2008 1:22 PM
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KathyW at 10/07/2008 1:37 PM
How I edit? I need pen and paper for my tactile crave. And to focus and not procrastinate I need solitude. Crave and Solitude backended, not bad. I tried to do tactile but it didn't work.
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loushy at 10/07/2008 1:41 PM
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jen h. at 10/07/2008 1:50 PM
Hello everyone!
Thank you all for stopping by Jeri's blog. I enjoyed your comments -- and will respond to some posts now, the rest later.
I'll start with the oh-so-talented Jen H. Jen (whoever you are!), I'm gifting a Lecture Packet to you. You're the first (and so far, the only) to respond to my challenge and NIX THE CLICHES in one of my blog sentences.
Well done! I love it! Fresh writing. Scene-themed. Strong cadence. And it carries power.
Jen -- Please e-mail me privately and let me know which of my four Lecture Packets you'd like!
I'll do a drawing for every 25 people who comment -- and one of them will win a Lecture Packet. Drawings will start LATE tonight (after I get home from critique group!). If more people post tomorrow, I'll do drawings at 9PM Mountain Time on Wednesday.
Here's my kill-you-with-cliches sentence, followed by Jen's FRESH rewrite. I loved the word-whisperer's secret. What powerful backloading! And your fresh writing soars. Kudos to Jen H!
All Smiles............Margie
You’re either Left-Brained, in charge of editing . . . or Right-Brained, and editing is horsing around with you, running you in circles, riding you ragged, or scaring you to death."
You're either a left-brained writer, editing your work with the precision and control of dressage... or you're right-brained, and editing has you at the end of a long rope staring down your manuscript wild-eyed and wishing you knew the word-whisperer's secret.
Posted by: jen h. at 10/07/2008 1:22 PM
Best...............Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 2:15 PM
Ah - You're a torn whole-brained writer. Ouch! You can learn to optimize right and left hemispheres, and not feel cleaved. :-)))
Start with Empowering Characters' Emotions. I teach it on-line every March. If you don't want to wait until March, you can order the Lecture Packet through Paypal from my web site.
YES -- You'll duct-tape your inner editor.
Glad you enjoyed the quiz. Thank you for dropping by.
Best..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 2:23 PM
You gave all your brain cells to Felix Gomez. Don't you remember?
BLOGGERS: Mario Acevedo is the word-whisperer for the successful vampire mystery series featuring Felix Gomez. Mario's writing is as strong and memorable as his titles: The Nymphos of Rocky Flats, X-Rated Blood Suckers, and The Undead Kama Sutra.
Mario -- See you at critique tonight!
Later...........Margie
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 2:37 PM
A leaning-to-the-right whole-brainer. LOVED reading that you added psychological power to your CP's work. Awesome!
I'm betting you are super organized when you choose to be. You and Liz took charge and organized having me present a full day master class in Milwaukee.
I'd call that organized! Can't wait to meet you on Halloween!
All Smiles...........Margie
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 2:42 PM
Thanks for popping on Jeri's blog.
I liked reading that you keep fixing it. Editing is what makes our writing soar.
Happy writing. And happy soaring!
Best.............Margie
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 2:46 PM
Ah -- a journalism background. You edit as you go, so your first complete draft is probably fairly clean. I trust that it has some power too. :-)) Then you do a full editing pass, and get input from trusted readers.
Thanks for sharing your editing process. Sounds like a a plan that sets you up for success. :-))
Best.............Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 2:50 PM
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Stephen D. Rogers at 10/07/2008 2:53 PM
Getting the initial words down on paper is the WORST for me. But once they're there, I love to keep layering and reworking them.
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Jennifer Shirk at 10/07/2008 2:56 PM
I love this…but I am in awe of people who can do it in one swoop.
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arhyalon at 10/07/2008 2:59 PM
Editing is my kryptonite. Along with synopses. But mostly editing. I guess I go in layers, but the methods I use tend to shift depending on what I think the story needs to fix it (or what kind of story - short or novel-length, dark or light, etc.).
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KL Grady at 10/07/2008 3:02 PM
I love your cover for RED-HEADED STEPCHILD. Powerful!
You got a 17 -- Strong right brain. You must kick into your left hemisphere as needed. :-)))
I'm a big fan of yours too. So glad we got to meet when I presented for DARA. You had such a fresh and powerful piece you wrote as part of the master class exercise. Fabulous!
I'm looking forward to RED-HEADED STEPCHILD's release on March 31st!
All Smiles.............Margie
Hello, Miss Margie! You know I'm a huge fan.
I scored 17--strong right brain. Your deep editing course has done wonders for helping make revisions easier for this right brainer.
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 3:02 PM
I usually decide my story is ready for my editor when I just can't stomach another editing round...or my deadline is minutes away. :)
Thanks Jeri for hosting Marige, and thanks Margie for your words of wisdom.
Misty
Operation Sheba
Witches Anonymous
www.readmistyevans.com
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Misty Evans at 10/07/2008 3:05 PM
Sounds like your whole brain thinking works well for you -- EXCEPT -- looking at one sentence for the millionth time. Sounds painful. I'm guessing those are the sentences that you know aren't working, but you don't know why.
Deep Editing teaches what to do with those sick sentences. Writers learn to diagnose and treat.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on editing. :-))
Best..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 3:11 PM
The editing comes from thinking 'that's not how I remembered it - it was shorter, sharper and a lot more fun in my head; and now there are too many words galloping away on me'.
Sorry about the cliches!
Now I know that my whole brain is trying to help I'll stop worrying and let each side take turns.
Thanks for sorting that out Margie.
Judy
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Judy at 10/07/2008 3:13 PM
I scored a 10 - Whole brained, which didn't surprise me - I think of myself as the creative scientist type. :-)
I write a fast first draft then edit many times, though I'm still working on that part.
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Julie Rowe at 10/07/2008 3:24 PM
I'll find the mistakes and inconsistencies in other people's writing... but I can't edit my own.
It's a no-go, my brain just ignores what I try to do.
I guess that goes for most people, but I know I'm blind, deaf and dumb when it comes to my own work. :)
That's why I love my crit groups lol.
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Silke at 10/07/2008 3:25 PM
Great to read your post, Margie...hope all is well with you!
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Tessy at 10/07/2008 3:59 PM
Great timing, I'm revising so this is so good to refresh my skills.
cmr
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Chris Redding at 10/07/2008 4:16 PM
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DeborahBrent at 10/07/2008 4:19 PM
thanks, Ellen
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Ellen at 10/07/2008 4:27 PM
Here is my version of your sentence though the metaphor is a bit mixed.
" Either you're left-brained and mired in editing, unable to haul yourself out of the tar pit and finish in triumph or you're right-brained and, after a long and exhausting run, find yourself lost in the manuscript jungle with no compass and no way out.
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Anonymous at 10/07/2008 4:27 PM
Carol Jo
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Carol Jo at 10/07/2008 4:31 PM
And I have no idea which of your prizes would work best for me. :)
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Carolyn R Domini, Pisces, Water Snake in the Chinese zodiac at 10/07/2008 5:23 PM
And I have no idea which of your prizes would work best for me. :)
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Carolyn R Domini, Pisces, Water Snake in the Chinese zodiac at 10/07/2008 5:24 PM
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Anonymous at 10/07/2008 6:26 PM
Another whole-brained writer. Your get the first draft written right-brained approach, followed by left-brained eiting time is a good approach. I look forward to seeing you in an on-line class. I bet you'll pick up lots of fresh ways to add psychological power.
Thanks for dropping by Jeri's blog. ;-)))
Best................................Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 6:41 PM
Kudos to you for powering through my Empowering Characters' Emotions Lecture Packet. Good for you for going back and using my EDITS System to edit what was on the page -- and what wasn't on the page. ;-)))
Thanks for the smiles!
All smiles..............Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 6:42 PM
Always great to see you! Ah -- a logic-driven deep edit-loving writer. No surprise!
My Five Question Scene Checklist helps edit-til-they-drop writers know when a scene is a TEN. :-)))
Thanks for sharing!
Hugs...............Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 6:42 PM
Great to e-meet you. Aren't the scene-movies in our heads amazing?
Thanks for sharing your writing style and passion. :-)))
Best......................Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 6:43 PM
Whole-brained is easier. You can easily access both brain hemispheres. You're already a brain hemisphere hopper.
Thanks for sharing!
Best.........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 6:48 PM
Great to see you too! Moderate left brain. Makes sense for you.
Love your editing system. Sounds like it works well, and matches your strengths. Perfect!
See you on-line!
Hugs............Margie
Great seeing you Margie. Loved the quiz. Turned out I'm a moderate left brain. I'm not surprised. :) I edit in layers. I know it takes me 7 passes to have a polished, ready to submit novel. I look forward to taking another of your classes in the future.
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 6:51 PM
So nice to e-meet you. Glad you enjoyed the Cognitive Style Quiz. Loved your creativity/clutter humor. ;-)))
Thanks for dropping by Jeri's blog!
Best...........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 6:53 PM
My process is to write several chapters, edit, then continue with new chapters.
Oh, yes. I procrastinate.
I edit in layers.
It's fun for me to go back through chapters and add "special touches," also I love starting a new book when the ideas are flowing like crazy.
I know my work is done when it "feels" right.
I try to edit my work equally.
This was a great blog. Thanks.
Petrina
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Petrina Green at 10/07/2008 6:53 PM
I'm a pretty strong right brainer, which explains why I love the first draft and I see editing as almost as painful as a root canal! I know I'm ready to send in a manuscript either when I'm facing a deadline, or when I've been through it using your "Deep Edits System."
I need to take your "Empowering Characters" class next.
Thanks for sharing your wisdom!
Donna
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Donna Hatch at 10/07/2008 6:54 PM
Editing is tough for some right-brainers. It makes sense that you'd prefer the let-it-flow writing versus analyze-and-add-power-and-polish writing.
Deep Editing is fun. I promise! You get to be creative and add power and polish. Very cool. :-)))
Thank you for sharing your editing style.
Best............Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 6:58 PM
It's a good thing you're a whole-brainer. Being an engineer and writer -- if you didn't score as whole-brained, I'd think you had multiple personalities. ;-)))
Thanks for stopping by.
Big Aussie hugs........Margie
Hi Margie - great blog.
I'm whole brain, no surprise there since I'm an engineer by day and writer by night. Sometimes I love editing, and at other times I don't, so maybe that's a reflection of my whole brain thing!
By the way, I can't recommend Margie's courses enough to anyone who hasn't taken them yet.
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 7:00 PM
I do generally like the editing process--but really in a more holistic sense; making the overall story good and flow well. On occasion I do get into kicks where I have to find just the right word, but if I did that all the time I'd never finish!
How do I "know" when something is done--I don't have a formula for it. It's just whenever it clicks that what I've written is actually pretty good. So maybe that "feeling" is why I'm just a moderate left-brain.
Posted by:
Scribess at 10/07/2008 7:01 PM
I'm teaching DIGGING DEEP INTO THE EDITS SYSTEM for writers online classes -- www.writersonlineclasses.com
You can access it through my web site, www.MargieLawson.com.
The on-line course starts on October 13th, and runs for two weeks.
Thanks for asking!
Best...........Margie
HI Margie! Where is the online class you're teaching next week? Can we still sign up for it?
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 7:04 PM
I scored "whole brain". I think that means that I suffer from the "grass is always greener" syndrome. When I'm writing, I want to be editing. When I'm editing, I'd rather be writing.
Oh well.
Lynn
Authors Tools Blog
Posted by:
Lynn Jordan at 10/07/2008 7:04 PM
You're so good to me. ;-)))
Hugs..........Margie
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 7:05 PM
As a leaning-right-whole-brainer, now you know why you are less of an editing fan -- and why you are in a hurry to get to the fun of writing the next story.
Deep Editing can be fun too. ;-)))
Thanks for sharing!
Best............Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/07/2008 7:08 PM
I am whole-brained, is that like being Jack of all trades? :D
I like to edit, but find I need to put most work into the beginning f the story. The set up.
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Toni Anderson at 10/07/2008 7:11 PM
I scored a 12, which I guess sort of fits my style. I like writing that first draft and even the first edits. Any edits after that, and I'd rather rip out my eyeballs and serve them up as appetizers. But...I make it through by leaving my WIP alone for at least a month. That way it's like I'm editing someone else's book. It makes it easier to show no mercy. ;-)
~MarCia
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marciacolette at 10/07/2008 7:12 PM
I took the DEEP EDITS earlier this year. I was surprised how the information sank in, when I didn't think I got it at all. I scored a 16 so I am moderate right brained. Hoep to take anoather calss one day thanks for the blog post.
Kathy Crouch
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Kathy at 10/07/2008 7:43 PM
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Michelle Miles at 10/07/2008 8:02 PM
[power word = energy, not sure if ooooooooz counts as onomatopeia but hey! I'm trying!] Anyway, a couple of months ago I was sent a really cool animated pic of a dancer which, depending on whether you were left-brained or right-brained, rotated either clockwise or anti-clockwise. I can't work out how to upload the pic to this site otherwise I'd do it. Being a fairly visual person I found it really fascinating. Depending on the day/time, I saw her rotating in different directions. My nephew could make it change direction with a blink! I don't quite understand the link to left- and right-brainedness but I'd love to hear your analysis of it!
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Karen at 10/07/2008 8:11 PM
:)
Talia
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talia pente at 10/07/2008 10:00 PM
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Karen Kish at 10/07/2008 10:41 PM
Ok...back to reread the rest of what you wrote...this is awesome stuff!! Thanks for sharing.
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Valerie Everhart at 10/07/2008 11:14 PM
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RK at 10/07/2008 11:26 PM
Glad you have a better understanding of how your whole-brained thinking impacts your writing and editing process. Thank you for posting!
Best.......................Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 12:46 AM
Ah -- a whole-brained creative scientist type writer. Your process reflects your strengths. I'm not sure what you meant about you were working on the editing part. You could have been referring to the number of editing passes, or your process of editing. Either way, I'm glad you're thinking about editing. :-)))
Thanks for dropping by Jeri's blog!
All smiles......................Margie
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 12:47 AM
Ah -- You're good at editing others, but said you can't edit your own. Maybe you'd benefit from having an editing plan . . .
I'm relieved to hear you're in a critique group! :-)))
Thanks for sharing!
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 12:49 AM
Yay! Sounds like the Cognitive Style Quiz clarified some points about your style and strengths. Excellent!
Thanks for dropping by Jeri's blog. Looking forward to connecting again. :-))
Best.......................Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 12:50 AM
Good for you for refreshing your Deep Editing skills. Have fun doing your revisions. Wish I had plans to visit Princeton again. :-)))
Hugs..................Margie
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 12:51 AM
With a score of 21, you're definitely a strong right-brained thinker. And -- you can strengthen the left-hemisphere of your brain, by accessing your more logical side, and using it more often. In Deep Editing, you could benefit from a blend of structured and free-form editing.
No worries. You can be creative in how you use your logic. :-)))
Best...................Margie
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 12:53 AM
Ah -- Now you understand your strengths (writing first drafts) and your angst (editing). Yikes! No pounding your face on the keyboard. You can learn to love Deep Editing and creating more power on your pages.
Thanks for visiting Jeri's blog!
Best.......................Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 12:54 AM
Thanks for taking on the challenge of rewriting my cliche-heavy sentence. Good job! I like the piece about being lost in the majuscript jungle. :-))
Thanks for sharing your rewrite!
Best.......................Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 12:55 AM
Sounds like you know how your whole-brained thinking works for you. Good for you!
You can read more about my on-line courses and Lecture Packtes on my web site. Enjoy!
Best..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 12:57 AM
Love your attitude! I bet you will master using your cognitive style for editing. :-)))
Best..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
Great advice and motivation. Now I want to learn more about using my cognitive style for editing. Thanks.
June Shaw
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 1:00 AM
Your editing plan sounds logical and organized. Not clinically Obsessive/Compulsive. :-)))
It also sounds like it matches your style -- and it's successful for you. Good for you!
Thanks for sharing your style and process.
Hope to see you on-line again sometime!
Best..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 1:08 AM
Ah -- you're a leaning right whole-brainer. Yep! That sounds like you!
Good process. Thanks for sharing how you build your books. It must work well. ;-)))
Glad to hear some Deep Editing has become automatic. Excellent!
Thanks for being here!
All smiles............Margie
Hi Jeri and Margie!
I'm a whole brainer tending toward the right. Makes sense when I think about how I work.
I tend to work on the early chapters until I hit my flow, then save the gritty editing for later. I layer, and do 4 or more passes. Thankfully, Margie's courses have helped me apply more techniques. Some are even automatic now - woohoo!
Another awesome blog, Margie and Jeri. Thanks for the fun!
Light,
Nancy Haddock
Va Vida Vampire
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 1:14 AM
Another whole-brainer! Only you're leaning to the left.
Hope you power through your first drafts, even though they're torture.
Wow. Torture? That's a heck of a power word.
Thanks for sharing!
Best..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
Ah - editing is easy for you. Makes sense!
I got a 9, whole brain, leaning left. Somehow this doesn't surprise me; I've always been good at doing both the math/science thing and the creative thing. But editing is always easier for me than getting that first draft down is. First drafts can be torture.
Posted by:
Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 1:18 AM
Great to see you on-line again.
You asked -- How you can guard against over-editing.
When writers have gone through my Five Question Scene Checklist, they know which scenes need more work, and which scenes are strong.
I cover the Five Question Scene Checklist in my Deep Editing course.
Thanks for popping on Jeri's blog. ;-)))
Best..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
I scored a whole-brained--hmm--is that a good thing? I'm a pantser who edits until I "feel" it is right. But that can be a trap. How do I guard against over-editing?
Loved your Empowering Characters Emotions class, Margie!
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 1:27 AM
PATRICIA!
Patricia -- Please e-mail me at margie@margielawson.com -- and let me know which of my Lecture Packets you'd like.
I pasted your post below.
You can read the course dexcriptions on my web site: www.MargieLawson.com
PATRICIA -- CONGRATULATIONS on winning the first drawing.
MORE DRAWINGS on WEDNESDAY NIGHT!
Remember -- I'm doing a drawing for every 25 people who post comments. More winners tomorrow!
Thanks to all of you for sharing your editing process and styles. I appreciate you.
I'll catch up on responding to comments tomorrow.
Best..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
PATRICIA'S POST:
I scored moderate right brain. I'm not sure what that really says about me or my writing.
For me editing though is a tough slog. I want to get it over with, but after reading your article I am very intrigued with the idea of deep editing, and the use of power words.
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 1:40 AM
PATRICIA!
Patricia -- Please e-mail me at margie@margielawson.com -- and let me know which of my Lecture Packets you'd like.
I pasted your post below.
You can read the course dexcriptions on my web site: www.MargieLawson.com
PATRICIA -- CONGRATULATIONS on winning the first drawing.
MORE DRAWINGS on WEDNESDAY NIGHT!
Remember -- I'm doing a drawing for every 25 people who post comments. More winners tomorrow!
Thanks to all of you for sharing your editing process and styles. I appreciate you.
I'll catch up on responding to comments tomorrow.
Best..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
PATRICIA'S POST:
I scored moderate right brain. I'm not sure what that really says about me or my writing.
For me editing though is a tough slog. I want to get it over with, but after reading your article I am very intrigued with the idea of deep editing, and the use of power words.
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 1:40 AM
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Brenda ND at 10/08/2008 8:50 AM
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purpleprose 78 at 10/08/2008 10:36 AM
(BTW it was great meeting you at M&M last weekend Margie!)
Posted by:
Kalayna Price at 10/08/2008 10:38 AM
Glad you enjoyed the quiz. Editing in layers works well. Good plan!
Thank you for posting!
Best.............Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
Posted by:
Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 10:55 AM
Yikes! Editing is root-canal-painful? Hope you find an editing system that comes with anesthesia. ;-)))
I look forward to seeing you on-line!
Hugs..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
Hi Margie,
I'm a pretty strong right brainer, which explains why I love the first draft and I see editing as almost as painful as a root canal! I know I'm ready to send in a manuscript either when I'm facing a deadline, or when I've been through it using your "Deep Edits System."
I need to take your "Empowering Characters" class next.
Thanks for sharing your wisdom!
Donna
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Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 10:59 AM
Thank you for sharing your moderate left brain editing process. Sounds like you swing both ways at different times.
See you on line!
Best..........Margie
www.MargieLawson.com
Posted by:
Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 11:03 AM
You can have a happy whole brain. You have strengths on both sides. Love the one your with. Love the hemisphere your using!
Thanks for popping on Jeri's blog. Chat later!
All smiles.............Margie
Hi Margie, it's great to see you over here.
I scored "whole brain". I think that means that I suffer from the "grass is always greener" syndrome. When I'm writing, I want to be editing. When I'm editing, I'd rather be writing.
Oh well.
Lynn
Authors Tools Blog
Posted by:
Margie Lawson at 10/08/2008 11:07 AM
Jeri's books are fabulous! And -- thanks for letting me know you like my on-line courses. :-))
I would have guessed you were whole-brained. You can choose to access and boost a strength in any areas. You're driven to succeed . . . and you succeed.
When you have a chance, e-mail me. I'd love to catch up!
All smiles.............Margie
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